
Canada's foreign minister on the future of U.S. relations
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Canada's foreign minister on U.S. relations and security guarantees for Ukraine
The U.S.-Canada relationship, for decades a symbol of stability, has been rockier under President Trump, who has joked about making Canada the 51st state. Nick Schifrin spoke with Canadian Foreign Minister Anita Anand about relations with the U.S., trade negotiations, security in Haiti and opportunities for peace in Ukraine.
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Canada's foreign minister on the future of U.S. relations
Clip: 8/21/2025 | 9m 8sVideo has Closed Captions
The U.S.-Canada relationship, for decades a symbol of stability, has been rockier under President Trump, who has joked about making Canada the 51st state. Nick Schifrin spoke with Canadian Foreign Minister Anita Anand about relations with the U.S., trade negotiations, security in Haiti and opportunities for peace in Ukraine.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipGEOFF BENNETT: Canada's Foreign Minister# Anita Anand visited Washington today to## meet with Secretary of State Marco Rubio,# as President Trump spoke with Canadian## Prime Minister Mark Carney about the two# countries' ongoing trade negotiations.
The U.S.-Canada relationship, for# decades a symbol of stability,## has been rockier under President Trump, who# has joked about making Canada the 51st state.
But Anand said today's conversation with Rubio## was positive, and spoke to Nick# Schifrin, who's here with me now.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Geoff, we discussed# the trade negotiation that you just## mentioned after President Trump earlier# this month raised tariffs on Canada on## goods that are not covered by USMCA,# the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement.
We talked about Haiti, where the U.S. and# Canada are trying to develop a new path forward## to try and bring stability.
But we began with# Ukraine, where Anand believes recent diplomacy## represents a new opportunity for peace.
ANITA ANAND, Canadian Foreign Minister: The## meeting of the European leaders# on Monday with President Trump## does present a renewed approach to seeking peace.
Our chiefs of defense staff are meeting, including# Canada's, Jennie Carignan, and that is the work## that the military leaders are doing right# now.
So, yes, this is a different moment.
NICK SCHIFRIN: So, as you# point out, President Trump## has made positive statements this week about# guaranteeing Ukraine's long-term security.
Earlier this year, he was much# more skeptical.
At this point,## do you believe the U.S. will help deliver# the kind of security guarantee that Ukraine## says it needs?
Or will it be minimal, as Vice# President Vance publicly suggested last night?
ANITA ANAND: The question of how# a security guarantee or guarantees## will be implemented needs to be fleshed# out.
There needs to be meat on the bones.
NICK SCHIFRIN: And do you think the# United States at this point is committed?
ANITA ANAND: From the words that we# heard on Monday and then certainly in## my conversations thereafter, I believe that# we will all be at the table in that regard.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Let me talk about the# larger U.S.-Canada relationship.
Of## course, most Canadians still offended,## angered by President Trump's 51st state# comments mostly earlier this year.
DONALD TRUMP, President of the United# States: I think Canada is going to be## a very serious contender to be our 51st state.
NICK SCHIFRIN: When it comes# to the military, Prime Minister## Carney announced a review of Canada's $27# billion deal to buy more than 80 F-35s,## suggesting that, after an initial delivery,# he might look to other countries' planes.
Are you withholding that agreement because# something in the U.S.-Canada relationship is## leading you to think, ah, I can't trust the# United States when it comes to the F-35s?
ANITA ANAND: So it's somewhat inaccurate# to simply move directly into the F-35 issue## without taking a step back to say,# what is this relationship all about?
In every relationship, there are hills and# there are valleys.
And what we are doing as## diplomats and as countries is to see through the# valleys to ensure that we walk this road together.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Do you describe today as a valley?
ANITA ANAND: Today was# definitely a positive moment.## My conversation with Secretary Rubio# was, I will say, collaborative,## cooperative, focused on areas that we will# continue to dialogue and work together.
NICK SCHIFRIN: With all due respect,## let me ask the question again.
.. ANITA ANAND: Canada's commitment to the F-35# deal has been very well-thought-out and very## well-reasoned and will continue to ensure that# the Canadian armed forces are well-equipped.
And, certainly, interoperability is one of the# most important aspects of that acquisition.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Let me ask about the larger# trade relationship right now.
Of course,## earlier this month, on the August 1 deadline,# President Trump raised some tariff rates from## 25 to 35 percent, although there# are a lot of exceptions to that.
But is the Canadian government today# committed to making a trade deal with## the U.S. even if there is a blanket# tariff on all goods indefinitely?
Or## are you holding out?
Will you refuse a deal# until you can remove some of those tariffs?
ANITA ANAND: We need to take a step back,# because we have the USMCA that is in place## that governs approximately 75 percent# of the trade between our two countries.
NICK SCHIFRIN: The president# raised tariffs on non-USMCA goods.
ANITA ANAND: And when I say 75 percent or more of## the goods that are traded between our two# countries, that's a significant percentage.
And the trade relationship, therefore, is# stronger than is often depicted.
I will say,## though, that steel and aluminum in Canada,# for example, are being hit very hard, as are## other sectors.
The auto sector is another one.# Lumber is another one.
So, yes, we have concerns.
NICK SCHIFRIN: And you mentioned USMCA.# Next year, there will be a renegotiation... ANITA ANAND: A review.
NICK SCHIFRIN: ..... NICK SCHIFRIN: OK.
But does that me.. ANITA ANAND: Of course we would like# to have the USMCA govern all sectors,## the way it has been since it# was put into place in 2018.
But are we going to sign on to a deal that# isn't the best possible deal for Canadians,## Canadian workers, Canadian businesses?
That's not# the approach that Prime Minister Carney is taking.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Let me move to the Middle# East.
Canada and other countries have vowed## to recognize Palestine next month# during the U.N. General Assembly.
Today, the U.S. ambassador to Israel,# Mike Huckabee, made this argument,## that your move takes Palestinians --# quote -- "further away from a state"## and your announcement was part of the reason# that Hamas dug in at the negotiating table.## Do you believe in any way that your# announcement has somehow backfired?
ANITA ANAND: Canada's intention to recognize# Palestine is based on our view that,## in order to maintain a two-state# solution as a viable policy outcome,## countries need to step forward and declare# their intention to recognize Palestine.
NICK SCHIFRIN: And is it conditional?
ANITA ANAND: And that is not at .. the security of either party# in the two-state solution.
And I have been having weekly calls with the# Palestinian Authority to ensure that they have## a road map forward for the commitments that they# made relating to democratization in Palestine,## demilitarization in Palestine, ensuring# that there is a viable Palestinian state.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Is your announcement# at all conditional on steps either## the P.A.
will take in the next couple of# weeks before the U.N. General Assembly## or in fact Israel might take when it# comes to the cease-fire negotiations?
ANITA ANAND: So, the announcement was predicated## on the work that the Palestinian# Authority said that it w.. NICK SCHIFRIN: And, finally, I know# that you and Secretary Rubio also## discussed Haiti today.
In fact, that was one# of the main points that you discussed today.
Is there a new road map or is there a new# vision for bringing security to Haiti?
ANITA ANAND: While we are both very grateful to# Kenya for leading the multicountry mission there,## there is a need to reexamine how stability can be# achieved in Port-au-Prince Haiti more generally.
Let's try to involve the United Nations.# Let's work on establishing a tangible presence## for the United Nations in Haiti so that we# can be delivering outcomes at scale.
And the## United Nations has that infrastructure# to do things like open bank accounts,## to set up offices, to have a place of employment# for people who can be working on the ground.
How do we ensure that this is# going to be a solution or at least## an option that stands the test of time?
NICK SCHIFRIN: Madam Foreign# Minister, thank you very much.
ANITA ANAND: Thank you very much.
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